Problems of online-stream buffering


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rodroger
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Hi,
My first post here since joining the site and must say I am very excited that Alan has decided to pass on his knowledge and experiance.
I have purchased one download "Noise Gates" which I had no problems with, and its content is all I hoped for and more.
I do have problems trying to view the live free feeds, as I have a slow ADLS 256/64kbps connection. I have tried pausing the feed to get the buffer far enough up front but... Itexplorer will refresh the page on me before the buffering has finished and I have to try again from the start of the feed. At the moment I have given up in trying to view the free feeds.
I feel it would be more appropriate to seperate the free feeds from the locked feeds on a seperate page so people who do have this problem can view then with out this type of problem. I do know why you have locked various feeds, so they can't be stolen. I have the same problem with my own music on my web site.
http://www.rodroger.com
But I hope you realise this will not stop some pirates with fast connections as they will use video capture software to grab the feed anyway. A real problem these days and it has made it basicaly impossible for a musco to get any monetary benifit for their material they have created.

I will not purchase any online streams because of my slow connection and will wait till I can afford to buy the complete DVD package when it is released. I can not pre-order as I am a struggling unemployed mucso, but I am trying to record some of my own new songs at the moment using a samson Gtrack mic and samplitude V.10.
As I am quite inexperianced in audio engerneering Alans knowlegde will help enomously in my endeavours to produce high quality recordings of my music.
Thanks Alan :)

Rodroger

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I have yet to see any browser

I have yet to see any browser try to refresh the home page before a video was completed. Which version of Internet Explorer are you using?

At the moment, the free feeds and pay-per-view feeds are on different pages, so can you let me know which page is giving you trouble?

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Hi again, The front home page

Hi again,
The front home page is the one that refreshes on me before the intro trailer finishes. (I didn't realise they are also on another page- sorry, my mistake :) I am using Explorer 8 but also using Trend Micro internet security? I may have to check my setting on both these programs, could also be caused by my children over using the bandwidth on me at various times, as I some times get connnection issues with my server. Which makes me think explorer may refresh itself if it loses the connection momentarily.
I have tried pausing it so the buffer can get ahead far enough but it seems to work only if I pause it for a very short period. I also tried to pause play and pause and play again but on the secound play it buffers it from the begining again, which is very strange, as this dosn't happen with youtube clips? If it is my end, don't worry too much as I will either ban my kids from using the net for certain hours of the day or wait to buy the DVD :) It's cool, I just thought you should know my problem in case some else also has this problem too.

Rodroger

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Hi I agree, but Dave Pensado

Hi
I agree, but Dave Pensado did fail to mention that the effects get progressively worse with the complexity and the overall level of the material.
I do recall that Mr. AP stated when he mixed / recorded pink floyd there were only four instruments at any one time which helps conversion of his material to MP3.
However, if you have listened to spotify (without the normalising function) there seems to be some progress in the quality facor that is available on dedicated internet music providers, I suppose MP4 will play an important part in pushing up the quality level if it does not already do.

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When was the last time you

When was the last time you cleaned your machine? For eg, checked for Malware and viruses. Also do a skandisk and defrag. All these contribute to a slower connection. I was having a horrible time buffering flash and downloading music files up to a week ago. Must have tried 50 solutions and nothing worked. finally I uninstalled my network adapter and rebooted my machine. Windows found a new driver, automatically installed it and I'm running faster than ever again. Just some thoughts :)

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Curious...

Your ADSL connection is 256/64kbs? Who is that through? If from a major telco (AT&T, Verizon, Quest, Rogers, BT, etc.) it should be a minimum of 256/128kbs for ADSL. What ever your paying it is probably too much. AT&T offers 768/128 kbps as their base level ADSL service in most regions. Unless your in a deeply rural area (or in their perspective much over 18kft EWL from their DSLAM) and you have no landline based options, (Cable TV company) you might want to check out wireless gateway devices such as Verizon's Mifi or similar devices, but check that you have decent 3G or better coverage, as you are already experiencing the average speed for 2.5G or EDGE cellular coverage.

If you are having issues with Microsoft's Internet Explorer, try a competing browser such as Mozilla's Firefox. I am uncertain why your browser keeps refreshing (sounds like malware to me, unless the connection is timing out or being interrupted, maybe someone else could clarify for me). But to solve it, most IT Help Desks would typically tell you:

1. Make sure your OS is up to date.
2. Make sure you have up to date Anti-Virus software running with scheduled scans.
3. Run a check for Spyware and any other forms of Malware.
4. Make sure you have an adequate Firewall.
4. Empty your browser cache.
5. Uninstall and/or disable any unwanted programs and/or services.
6. Be certain you are doing the typically recommended system maintenance by running maintenance utilities on a regular basis, (i.e. Disk Cleanup, Scan Disk, and Defrag), now do a full system shut down (not a restart).
7. Now attempt to access the desire website, resource, or application.

That regiment will generally keep a PC running smoothly and provide a relatively enjoyable internet experience for it's lifecycle.

My general suggestion to anyone to help avoid studio IT issues and make life more enjoyable:

1. Buy the "Digital Audio and Computers" download from this website, watch it and read up on the subject till you understand all of the video.
2. If you have the money, buy another computer as it is not advisable to access the internet from your studio computer or have it sitting on a network with computers or devices that do without proper precautionary measures. If this is not an option, disable or unplug your internet connection when working on projects.
3. Keep up your manufacturer(s) and vendor(s) recommend maintenance routine.
4. Have a good backup scheme, both full and incremental. Store archived backups off-site if possible, i.e. safety deposit box, etc.
5. Never work off of your physical system drive.
6. Check to see if your ISP has any newer services available, such as: AT&T U-verse, Verizon FiOS, BT Infinity, etc.
7. Shop ISP's if yours cannot provide the service that you need or want. If your ISP's competition is just as deficient, you will be forced to move closer to a metro area or spend substantially more on T1/E1, Metro-E, etc.
8. Buy a Mac or learn Linux (Yes, you MUST maintain them also, but generally less problematic, but have a learning curve for ex-Microsoft persons).
9. When you buy Audio software, I prefer that it be platform independent. Nuendo, Pro Tools, and Ableton Live are my picks. On a budget, Cubase for a great general DAW or Ableton Live for moments of inspiration.
10. If editing Audio and Video (let the flame wars start), I suggest sticking with Mac, use Logic for your DAW (Nuendo if you hate Logic) and Final Cut. When cost is a major consideration for audio GarageBand (free with Mac), and Logic Express. For video iMovie (free with Mac) and Final Cut Express. All of these play nicely with one another in their current form and each one translates well as your skill progresses along with your budget.
11. Keep the faith! Never give up! And if we were all in this for ONLY the money, we might be working in the wrong business!

Hope that was helpful.

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Great info above! One thing

Great info above! One thing you should do as well is to reboot into Safe Mode with Networking and do a speedtest both in regular mode and safe mode. May help you narrow down your options if you are getting higher download rate in safe mode.

http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest?flash=1
http://speedtest.comcast.net/

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Thanks guys for the help on

Thanks guys for the help on my problem. I made a mistake about my connection, it is a 256/128 adsl, the slowest adsl available from bigpond. I can get a faster adsl but as $ are short and I would rather have a 12gb allocation then the speed. This service only cost me $50 a month (4 port wireless modem was free) and I don't get charges for going over the 12GB limit, just slowed down. I did a speed test in both safe and normal mode and is as expected (both the same). When my kids are not using it at the same time the video from this site plays fine :), I discovered my two children (teenagers) are using web cams with their online chat programs (windows live). This is what has caused the slow connection at times. :)

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Bigpond

For that price I would tell them to take their service and, uhm.... hmm... I cannot think of a witty pun involving "Big" and "Pond". Oh well...lol

I guess that is $50 AUD? Still seems expensive.

In the states for $50 USD (about $55 AUD) I can get 18/1 Mbps with an 80 or 150 GB cap (not sure which it is) through AT&T and their router has WiFi and a four port Ethernet switch. Wow, this is the first time I have ever been happy to have to deal with AT&T! Miracles may never cease!

Best wishes.

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Yeah, internet services in

Yeah, internet services in Australia are still very expensive, an example is a friend of mine has a high speed 30GB plan through Optus.net but it costs him $130 AUD a month and his upload is counted as well. My Bigpond 12GB plan allocation only includes on download only which is a bonus as I have a web site, another point is if I choose a cheaper plan from any other service provider they charge you 20-30 cents per MB if you go over your data allocation. I did this by accident a couple of years ago and got a $350 AUD bill for the month - ouch!

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