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Markg
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I have learnt a great deal from the sections posted online so far despite having used many of the 'tools' on and off for years now - we never stop learning and it is always useful to go back over the basics - review what you think you know.

For me the mixing section was the most useful of all right up to the point when it was announced that Alan & Co had decided to finish mixing the project at home. That didn't help me at all!

Also, on watching these sections for a second time it looks as though a lot of work had already been done on the DAW prior to the mixing we got to see. I am hoping that the versions released on DVD may have more depth. Perhaps that's why it is taking so long to complete things?

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Mixing

Hi there. As you obviously know, mixing is one of the more laborious and painstaking aspects of the recording process. What we have tried to do is show and comment on all the key stages and factors without necessarily doing the same thing over and over again with each part/mic/track etc. We do have hours of footage of course that would, in our opinion, stretch the patience and attention span of even the most ardent student or Alan Parsons follower. So yes, the scene does unashamedly 'edit' some of the action in the interests of viewability.

The mixing scene is one of the largest in the entire program and while not every move may be shown here we hope that that the processes and techniques involved will be clear enough for viewers to apply these to their own work, which is of course the point.

One of the great concerns we had when embarking on the series is that recording is not, for the most part, much of a spectator sport. A lot of it is about as exciting as watching someone knit a jersey. Having said all of this, we will no doubt publish outtakes and background footage on the website as time goes on. Especially if viewers have some specific requests of aspects they'd like to 'see more of.'

Hope this explains and helps.

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"full" video at the end of mixing part 2

Hi Everyone !!!

I´m very dissapointed about the end of mixing part 2, you show a few seconds of the "full" video and redirect to this page for further ...

I didn´t found this content under the files section, where did you hide it ????
Is it only available on the forthcoming DVD´s ???

I´ve paid for 3 "sixpacks" of the online lessions and some of them are short and poor, even if the whole project is such a great idea and pleased us in general !!!

See Alan singing naked under the shower ist worth $ 3,33 :-)))

nibis

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Show us more.

Hello,
I have found all the segments so far to be of interest and value,
and appreciate the more philosophical approach over that of a "recipe for a great mix".
It was good to see way in which Alan began the mixing process, and as expected the
final mix was great. It would have been nice to read or hear exactly why they chose
to start the mix over at his home studio, why he chose to mix in the box and
how he used the effects on the various tracks. Specifically if they were channel inserts,
or inserts on sub-groups and if there was any master buss processing at all.
I know he said he didn't use buss compressors, but that doesn't mean he didn't use
some equalization or form of dynamics processing. While this information is covered
to some degree in the various processing sections, it would have been useful to get a
rundown for that particular song. Maybe you could post the track sheet / mix notes?
I also disagree that showing more of the session would try the patience of viewers.
This site is for people who want to learn from someone they do not have real world
access to. We all know how long mix sessions can be, and how tedious it is for
people not involved the in the process, but that tedium is our bread and butter,
so I think most ASSR members would prefer a four part section, even if in the end
the only thing we take away from it is exactly when ear fatigue set in.

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Absolutely agree with

Absolutely agree with Studio139.

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Mix topics

Many thanks for your detailed list of items you would like to see explored. That's exactly the information we need to know. As soon as Alan gets his sanity back from doing the final mixes of the series for the DVD we will be looking at what additional information can be supplied on this fascinating but somewhat endless topic.

As mentioned earlier we do have a lot more footage currently on the digital cutting room floor (and so fortunately rather more accessible for the future) plus of course other information that people might appreciate can be published.

We will be posting a lot more source material over the next few weeks and hopefully this will provide some of the answers you are looking for as well.

As is recording itself, this site and this series is not something that we ever intended to become 'set in stone.' We have always planned for the series to act as a foundation for on-going discussion, experiments, and more in the years to come.